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Artisan · May 07, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

Uh...

Overreact much?

You'll see the same thing everywhere that provides an ongoing service. If they DON'T, then if they do want to change the payment structure in the future, they can run into a bunch of legal trouble. Just because they CAN doesn't mean they will, but they'd rather have the option than be completely locked out from ever changing pay structure. Read some other EULAs, half the text is there in order to allow companies to keep their options open.

Here's a for instance:

Also in the EULA is the following clause:

NC Interactive reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to (1) delete or alter any Account ID or (2) terminate any license granted herein, for any reason whatsoever, including, without limitation, any suspected or actual infringement of any trademark or trade name right, copyright, or other proprietary right. You have sole liability for all activities conducted through your Account or under your Account ID.

Do any of you realize that without this clause, if they delete your account, you can theoretically sue them for what is essentially breach of contract? Doesn't mean they're going to delete the account of anyone who's name starts with a B, even though they can delete people's accounts 'for any reason'.

The phrase "reserves the right" appears 9 times in the EULA. Frankly, it needs to be there in case sometime in the future the situation arises where they need to go to a subscription-based payment system. It doesn't mean they're planning on it. Point is, it would be kind of naive to exclude this kind of thing because you don't think things will ever change from their current state. I don't buy life insurance because I know I'm going to get hit by a bus tommorow, I buy it in case the situation arises where it's needed.

It's not a part of the EULA because they're planning to implement it, it's there because they're smart enough to know that one day the situation might require them to use this option.

Terra Xin · May 07, 2006, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by Angel Develin

no monthly fees??
thats true but now they come with a 6 month upgrade (what they call a stand alone game) and it cost allmost 50 euro, thats about 8 euro each month. so we are paying for whats new like every other online game the only thing is we pay every 6 month for now on.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game and I don't mind buying a new chapter each 6 month but to say we don't pay a monthly fee is not compleetly correct.
other Online game (with monthly fee) give a new area every few months, so this gamers pay for the upgrade and the services, we do the same only we do it diffrent. there is no compony that could or would make anything for free.

As long as there is no monthly fee

and as long as I'm having fun I'm buying the collectors edition every time

(i have the first 2, just to show that I love the game)

That's incorrect. You only "technically" pay a monthly fee if you plan on buying every single game that comes out. And even if you compare the evaluation of 8 euro a month, it's considered much less than what other games are charging. Not only do you have to pay the monthly for fee-based games, but when they do open up a new area, you have to pay for that as well. You mention this, but you forget to revise back to what you previously say. And of course, there are FREE online games that you can play, they are just significantly crappy... or text-based (note, I did not link 'crappy' to 'text-based', nor do i plan to)

The fact that Factions is a stand-alone game IS correct, you are completely able to play factions by itself, their sneak is that it's far superior to own merged games (or at least own some/all games)than to just have one. Consider a person who has never played factions and only owns prophecies. They are more likely to buy Factions than a person who had just heard of Guild Wars after the release of Factions. But they are still playing one game. I suppose for now, Prophecies will become the very base for all future games to come. And to counter your argument again, there are already people who havent bought factions, or consider NOT buying factions - so...

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Originally Posted by VGJustice

I guess what I'm saying here is that people who want to make money do their very best not to make poor decisions. Adding a monthly fee after all their advertising about "No Monthly" would be a poor decision, don't you think?

Yep. If your biggest advertising strategy is "No monthly fees" quoted on every single Factions and Prophecies box, as well as the website and contained in many reviews of the game, to change that will turn all of these "what if's?" into "what the f***?". Look at this statement closely, Not only is this quote their biggest advertising appeal, it's got a big weight on it if they decide to remove it. Their business plan includes the No Monthly fees even. They enforce that more strongly than an old man's intestinal fortitude...^^.

(sorry for any unwanted images i have caused :P)

And to add to this rather repetative list coming along. If they charge or even propose monthly fees, I'm not even going to argue against it, I'll just leave.

Spartan033 · May 08, 2006, 04:42 PM // 16:42

I dont think any game deserves a monthly fee. That is such a scam...15$ a month for WoW and EQ2...yha right.

Stockholm · May 08, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Read ANets lips: GW will not have monthly fees.

Read NC-Softs lips: It's not up to Arena Net to set fee's, NC-Soft set's fee's.

As long as they sell XX amount's off GWF per monthto cover the cost of development and upkeep of servers, if that declines then they might have to start charging a monthly fee.

Miakoda · May 08, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

"Read NC-Softs lips: It's not up to Arena Net to set fee's, NC-Soft set's fee's.

As long as they sell XX amount's off GWF per monthto cover the cost of development and upkeep of servers, if that declines then they might have to start charging a monthly fee."

There will be NO monthly fees EVER!

Gail has already set the record straight, so stop these pointless threads.